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صادق زیباکلام: چیزی به نام "ایرانیّت" را باور ندارم

Sadegh Zibakalam: I do not believe in something called "Iranian-ness"

صادق زیباکلام: اساسا نگاه ما به گذشته این است که باید آدم‌ها را محاکمه کنیم؛ می‌گوییم آدم‌ها یا خادم است یا خائن!

Sadegh Zibakalam: Basically, our view of the past is that we must put people on trial; we say people are either servants or traitors!

صادق زیباکلام: از یک سو با حکومتی روبرو هستید که می‌گوید، زن، زندگی، آزادی تئوری خارجی است؛ و در طرف دیگر با دانشجویی طرف هستید که می‌گوید " این دفعه دیگر کار تمام است "

Sadegh Zibakalam: On the one hand, you are faced with a government that says, “Woman, Life, Freedom is a foreign theory”; and on the other hand, you are dealing with a student who says "this time, it’s really over"

صادق زیباکلام: یکی از عوامل عقب‌ماندگی در علوم انسانی، رواج فرضیه‌های توطئه است

Sadegh Zibakalam: One of the factors behind the underdevelopment of the humanities is the prevalence of conspiracy theories

صادق زیباکلام: علوم اجتماعی در دانشگاه تهران قبول شوی، می‌خواهی چه‌کار کنی؟ بعدا شاید اگر عضو خانواده شهدا یا جزو جان‌فداها باشی، تازه ممکن است دبیر شوی!

Sadegh Zibakalam: If you get accepted to study social sciences at the University of Tehran, what do you want to do? Later, perhaps if you are a member of a martyr’s family or among the self-sacrificers, you might finally become a teacher!

صادق زیباکلام: قدم اول، پذیرفتن عقب‌ماندگی در علوم انسانی است

Sadegh Zibakalam: The first step is to acknowledge our backwardness in the humanities.

Blaming sanctions and inflation and so on is more of an excuse; we should first ask ourselves whether we accept the premise of the problem?

صادق زیباکلام: ما حتی عرضه نداشتیم، درباره پدیده ها و تحولات مملکت خودمان کار کنیم!

Sadegh Zibakalam: We weren't even capable of studying the phenomena and developments in our own country!

Can't you find an Iranian researcher who has worked on America, Japan, and World War II

صادق زیباکلام: نمی‌توانید تصور کنید که در علوم انسانی ما چقدر از آمریکایی‌ها، فرانسوی‌ها و... عقب‌تریم!

Sadegh Zibakalam: You cannot imagine how far behind the Americans, the French, and... we are in the humanities!

In the humanities, one cannot see difference with the naked eye.

صادق زیباکلام: واقعیت این است که ما در علوم انسانی، وحشتناک عقب‌مانده هستیم

Sadegh Zibakalam: The reality is that we are terribly backward in the humanities.

Technology can be imported; but you cannot do this with history, sociology, and psychology.

صادق زیباکلام: در سالهای اولیه انقلاب، جنبشی که منجر به سقوط پهلوی شد به عنوان یک حرکت غیرخشونت‌آمیز شناخته شده بود

Sadegh Zibakalam: In the early years of the Revolution, the movement that led to the fall of the Pahlavi dynasty was known as a nonviolent movement

I told the Ministry of Science that I didn’t want to study chemical engineering; the only person who supported my decision was Dr. Abdolkarim Soroush.

صادق زیباکلام: بعد از انقلاب، نمی‌توانستم درک کنم که چرا حکومت محمدرضا شاه سقوط کرد

Sadegh Zibakalam: After the revolution, I could not understand why Mohammad Reza Shah's government fell

I presented a project in collaboration with the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance in which I interviewed a number of political figures and personalities; I had one question, "What caused the Mohammad Reza Shah regime to fall"

صادق زیباکلام: برای من که مبارز سیاسی بودم، سقوط رژیم محمدرضا شاه پهلوی دور از ذهن بود

Sadegh Zibakalam: As someone who was a political activist, the fall of Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi’s regime was beyond my imagination.

The reality is that we are terribly backward in the humanities.

حمیدرضا ترقی: افزایش رضایتمندی مردم مهمترین اولویت نظام جمهوری اسلامی خواهد بود

Hamidreza Taraghi: Increasing people's satisfaction will be the most important priority of the Islamic Republic system.

We must bring our economy to the number one economy in the region.

حمیدرضا ترقی: کسانی که چنین شعارهایی (جاویدشاه) را دادند، اصلا قابل مقایسه با جمعیت کشور نیستند

Hamidreza Taraghi: Those who chanted such slogans (Long live the Shah) are not at all comparable to the population of the country.

We must accept our shortcomings and take the enemy's plan to overthrow the regime into consideration.

حمیدرضا ترقی: نفوذ را عمدتا در تیم مذاکره‌کننده آقای روحانی داشتیم که دستگیر شدند

Hamidreza Taraghi: We mainly had infiltration within Mr. Rouhani’s negotiating team, who were arrested

What we witnessed in this war, apart from the domestic traitors, cannot be attributed to infiltration in any other way.

حمیدرضا ترقی: دغدغه آقای روحانی این است که فضای کشور به سمتی می‌رود که عملکردشان دارد زیر سوال می‌رود؛ از ترس اینکه این روند به سمت محاکمه پیش برود، این حرف‌ها را می‌زنند

Hamidreza Taraghi: Mr. Rouhani’s concern is that the country’s atmosphere is moving in a direction where his performance is being called into question; out of fear that this process will move toward a trial, he is making these remarks.

Mr. Rouhani's mistake is that he does not understand the difference between defense and war!

حمیدرضا ترقی: مفهوم قرارگاه جدید، به این معنا نیست که کار دست نظامی ها بیافتد؛ بلکه کار با هماهنگی نیروهای نظامی پیش برود

Hamidreza Taraghi: The concept of the new headquarters does not mean that the work will fall into the hands of the military; rather, it means that the work will proceed in coordination with the military forces.

The economy has fallen into the hands of those who are centers of power.

حمیدرضا ترقی: اگر توافقمان با عمان نهایی شود، غیر از کشورهای متخاصم، بقیه کشورها ترددشان راه خواهد افتاد

Hamidreza Taraghi: If our agreement with Oman is finalized, except for hostile countries, travel for the rest of the countries will resume.

The bulk of our trade exchanges are conducted by land, rail, and the Caspian Sea; we have reduced our reliance on maritime transport.

حمیدرضا ترقی: باید در دکترین هسته‌ای تجدیدنظری صورت بگیرد؛ باید به سمت سلاح‌هایی برویم که مستقیما خود آمریکا را هدف قرار دهد

Hamidreza Taraghi: There must be a revision in the nuclear doctrine; we must move toward weapons that directly target the United States itself

We are pursuing solutions that can protect the people of Iran from the harm of U.S. aggression.

حمیدرضا ترقی: اینکه آمریکا دست از حمایت اسرائیل بردارد، شدنی است؛ تحولی در آمریکا در این‌باره درحال رخ دادن است

Hamidreza Taraghi: It is possible for the US to stop supporting Israel; a shift on this issue is currently taking place in the US

America must stop its arrogance toward the independent countries of the world.

حمیدرضا ترقی: مردم ما باید بدانند اگر جایی بر اساس مذاکره و دیپلماسی می‌توانیم به حقوقمان برسیم، وظیفه داریم اول آن را انتخاب کنیم

Hamidreza Taraghi: Our people should know that if there is a situation where we can achieve our rights through negotiation and diplomacy, we have a duty to choose that option first.

Through war, we only achieved some of our objectives; through negotiations, we could not have achieved our true nuclear rights.

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بیژن عبدالکریمی: شما که سهل است، اگر امام زمان در صدر حکومت بود، این مسائل پیش نمی‌آمد؟

Bijan Abdolkarimi: You are the least of it; if the Hidden Imam were at the head of the government, would these issues not arise?

The vast majority of our presidents were not political figures.

حمیدرضا ترقی: در شرایط کنونی، استعفا یا استیضاح رئیس جمهور به مصلحت کشور و نظام نیست؛ موجب اختلال در روند مدیریت کشور خواهد شد

Hamidreza Taraghi: Under the current circumstances, the president’s resignation or impeachment is not in the best interests of the country and the system; it would disrupt the country’s management process.

If there is any criticism, it should also be raised in private meetings between parliament and the government; without the criticisms being made public.

حمیدرضا ترقی: انتظار این نیست که آقای پزشکیان یک عنصر اصولگرا باشد؛ در حوزه اقتصادی نمی‌توان به دولت پزشکیان نمره خوبی داد

Hamidreza Taraghi: The expectation is not that Mr. Pezeshkian be a principlist; in the economic sphere, the Pezeshkian administration cannot be given a good grade

Due to governments' lack of belief in a resistance economy, this approach was not realized.