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صادق زیباکلام: چیزی به نام "ایرانیّت" را باور ندارم

Sadegh Zibakalam: I do not believe in something called "Iranian-ness"

صادق زیباکلام: اساسا نگاه ما به گذشته این است که باید آدم‌ها را محاکمه کنیم؛ می‌گوییم آدم‌ها یا خادم است یا خائن!

Sadegh Zibakalam: Basically, our view of the past is that we must put people on trial; we say people are either servants or traitors!

صادق زیباکلام: از یک سو با حکومتی روبرو هستید که می‌گوید، زن، زندگی، آزادی تئوری خارجی است؛ و در طرف دیگر با دانشجویی طرف هستید که می‌گوید " این دفعه دیگر کار تمام است "

Sadegh Zibakalam: On the one hand, you are faced with a government that says, “Woman, Life, Freedom is a foreign theory”; and on the other hand, you are dealing with a student who says "this time, it’s really over"

صادق زیباکلام: یکی از عوامل عقب‌ماندگی در علوم انسانی، رواج فرضیه‌های توطئه است

Sadegh Zibakalam: One of the factors behind the underdevelopment of the humanities is the prevalence of conspiracy theories

صادق زیباکلام: علوم اجتماعی در دانشگاه تهران قبول شوی، می‌خواهی چه‌کار کنی؟ بعدا شاید اگر عضو خانواده شهدا یا جزو جان‌فداها باشی، تازه ممکن است دبیر شوی!

Sadegh Zibakalam: If you get accepted to study social sciences at the University of Tehran, what do you want to do? Later, perhaps if you are a member of a martyr’s family or among the self-sacrificers, you might finally become a teacher!

صادق زیباکلام: قدم اول، پذیرفتن عقب‌ماندگی در علوم انسانی است

Sadegh Zibakalam: The first step is to acknowledge our backwardness in the humanities.

Blaming sanctions and inflation and so on is more of an excuse; we should first ask ourselves whether we accept the premise of the problem?

صادق زیباکلام: ما حتی عرضه نداشتیم، درباره پدیده ها و تحولات مملکت خودمان کار کنیم!

Sadegh Zibakalam: We weren't even capable of studying the phenomena and developments in our own country!

Can't you find an Iranian researcher who has worked on America, Japan, and World War II

صادق زیباکلام: نمی‌توانید تصور کنید که در علوم انسانی ما چقدر از آمریکایی‌ها، فرانسوی‌ها و... عقب‌تریم!

Sadegh Zibakalam: You cannot imagine how far behind the Americans, the French, and... we are in the humanities!

In the humanities, one cannot see difference with the naked eye.

صادق زیباکلام: واقعیت این است که ما در علوم انسانی، وحشتناک عقب‌مانده هستیم

Sadegh Zibakalam: The reality is that we are terribly backward in the humanities.

Technology can be imported; but you cannot do this with history, sociology, and psychology.

صادق زیباکلام: در سالهای اولیه انقلاب، جنبشی که منجر به سقوط پهلوی شد به عنوان یک حرکت غیرخشونت‌آمیز شناخته شده بود

Sadegh Zibakalam: In the early years of the Revolution, the movement that led to the fall of the Pahlavi dynasty was known as a nonviolent movement

I told the Ministry of Science that I didn’t want to study chemical engineering; the only person who supported my decision was Dr. Abdolkarim Soroush.

صادق زیباکلام: بعد از انقلاب، نمی‌توانستم درک کنم که چرا حکومت محمدرضا شاه سقوط کرد

Sadegh Zibakalam: After the revolution, I could not understand why Mohammad Reza Shah's government fell

I presented a project in collaboration with the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance in which I interviewed a number of political figures and personalities; I had one question, "What caused the Mohammad Reza Shah regime to fall"

صادق زیباکلام: برای من که مبارز سیاسی بودم، سقوط رژیم محمدرضا شاه پهلوی دور از ذهن بود

Sadegh Zibakalam: As someone who was a political activist, the fall of Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi’s regime was beyond my imagination.

The reality is that we are terribly backward in the humanities.

حمیدرضا ترقی: افزایش رضایتمندی مردم مهمترین اولویت نظام جمهوری اسلامی خواهد بود

Hamidreza Taraghi: Increasing people's satisfaction will be the most important priority of the Islamic Republic system.

We must bring our economy to the number one economy in the region.

حمیدرضا ترقی: کسانی که چنین شعارهایی (جاویدشاه) را دادند، اصلا قابل مقایسه با جمعیت کشور نیستند

Hamidreza Taraghi: Those who chanted such slogans (Long live the Shah) are not at all comparable to the population of the country.

We must accept our shortcomings and take the enemy's plan to overthrow the regime into consideration.

حمیدرضا ترقی: نفوذ را عمدتا در تیم مذاکره‌کننده آقای روحانی داشتیم که دستگیر شدند

Hamidreza Taraghi: We mainly had infiltration within Mr. Rouhani’s negotiating team, who were arrested

What we witnessed in this war, apart from the domestic traitors, cannot be attributed to infiltration in any other way.

حمیدرضا ترقی: دغدغه آقای روحانی این است که فضای کشور به سمتی می‌رود که عملکردشان دارد زیر سوال می‌رود؛ از ترس اینکه این روند به سمت محاکمه پیش برود، این حرف‌ها را می‌زنند

Hamidreza Taraghi: Mr. Rouhani’s concern is that the country’s atmosphere is moving in a direction where his performance is being called into question; out of fear that this process will move toward a trial, he is making these remarks.

Mr. Rouhani's mistake is that he does not understand the difference between defense and war!

حمیدرضا ترقی: مفهوم قرارگاه جدید، به این معنا نیست که کار دست نظامی ها بیافتد؛ بلکه کار با هماهنگی نیروهای نظامی پیش برود

Hamidreza Taraghi: The concept of the new headquarters does not mean that the work will fall into the hands of the military; rather, it means that the work will proceed in coordination with the military forces.

The economy has fallen into the hands of those who are centers of power.

حمیدرضا ترقی: اگر توافقمان با عمان نهایی شود، غیر از کشورهای متخاصم، بقیه کشورها ترددشان راه خواهد افتاد

Hamidreza Taraghi: If our agreement with Oman is finalized, except for hostile countries, travel for the rest of the countries will resume.

The bulk of our trade exchanges are conducted by land, rail, and the Caspian Sea; we have reduced our reliance on maritime transport.

حمیدرضا ترقی: باید در دکترین هسته‌ای تجدیدنظری صورت بگیرد؛ باید به سمت سلاح‌هایی برویم که مستقیما خود آمریکا را هدف قرار دهد

Hamidreza Taraghi: There must be a revision in the nuclear doctrine; we must move toward weapons that directly target the United States itself

We are pursuing solutions that can protect the people of Iran from the harm of U.S. aggression.

حمیدرضا ترقی: اینکه آمریکا دست از حمایت اسرائیل بردارد، شدنی است؛ تحولی در آمریکا در این‌باره درحال رخ دادن است

Hamidreza Taraghi: It is possible for the US to stop supporting Israel; a shift on this issue is currently taking place in the US

America must stop its arrogance toward the independent countries of the world.

حمیدرضا ترقی: مردم ما باید بدانند اگر جایی بر اساس مذاکره و دیپلماسی می‌توانیم به حقوقمان برسیم، وظیفه داریم اول آن را انتخاب کنیم

Hamidreza Taraghi: Our people should know that if there is a situation where we can achieve our rights through negotiation and diplomacy, we have a duty to choose that option first.

Through war, we only achieved some of our objectives; through negotiations, we could not have achieved our true nuclear rights.

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بیژن عبدالکریمی: شما که سهل است، اگر امام زمان در صدر حکومت بود، این مسائل پیش نمی‌آمد؟

Bijan Abdolkarimi: You are the least of it; if the Hidden Imam were at the head of the government, would these issues not arise?

The vast majority of our presidents were not political figures.

حمیدرضا ترقی: در شرایط کنونی، استعفا یا استیضاح رئیس جمهور به مصلحت کشور و نظام نیست؛ موجب اختلال در روند مدیریت کشور خواهد شد

Hamidreza Taraghi: Under the current circumstances, the president’s resignation or impeachment is not in the best interests of the country and the system; it would disrupt the country’s management process.

If there is any criticism, it should also be raised in private meetings between parliament and the government; without the criticisms being made public.

حمیدرضا ترقی: انتظار این نیست که آقای پزشکیان یک عنصر اصولگرا باشد؛ در حوزه اقتصادی نمی‌توان به دولت پزشکیان نمره خوبی داد

Hamidreza Taraghi: The expectation is not that Mr. Pezeshkian be a principlist; in the economic sphere, the Pezeshkian administration cannot be given a good grade

Due to governments' lack of belief in a resistance economy, this approach was not realized.

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حمیدرضا ترقی: در بخش اصولی و اساسی و آرمان‌ها، همان راه ادامه پیدا خواهد کرد اما کشتی‌بان قطعا شیوه کشتی‌بانی‌اش تفاوت خواهد داشت

Hamidreza Taraqi: In terms of principles, fundamentals, and ideals, the same path will continue, but the helmsman will certainly have a different way of steering the ship.

The role of the Assembly of Experts in selecting the Leader is a completely independent role.

حمیدرضا ترقی: طبیعتا تغییراتی در شیوه مدیریت و حکمرانی و در مناسبات بین المللی در آینده خواهیم داشت

Hamidreza Taraqi: Naturally, we will have changes in the methods of management and governance and in international relations in the future.

Since this era is moving toward pushing America out of the region, it has its own demands.

حمیدرضا ترقی: بحث‌هایی مثل علی‌الاصول، نشاندهنده این است که تفاوت هایی بین راهکارهای ایشان برای اتمام جنگ با شورای عالی امنیت قبلی وجود داشته

Hamidreza Taraqi: Discussions such as "in principle" indicate that there are differences between his solutions for ending the war and those of the previous Supreme National Security Council.

The memorandum of understanding has no enforcement guarantee.

بیژن عبدالکریمی: احکامی صادر شد که مردم را به خشم بیاورد

Bijan Abdolkarimi: Rulings were issued that would make people angry.

There are forces in this country that destabilize the country for their own interests.

بیژن عبدالکریمی: جنایتی که در 18 و 19 دی اتفاق افتاد حادثه ای بود که پایه های نظام و مشروعیت را متزلزل کرد

Bijan Abdolkarimi: The crime that took place on January 8 and 9 was an incident that shook the foundations of the system and its legitimacy.

If we treat a student violently simply for asking a question, this is condemnable.

عبدالله عبدی: نمی شود کتمان کرد که ایران ما، تنش زخمی است

Abdollah Abdi: It cannot be denied that our Iran is a wounded body.

They should ask this question: what happened over the course of nearly half a century under a government that some of those who chanted "Death to the Shah" when this government was founded, half a century later chanted "Long live the Shah"?

حمیدرضا ترقی: وصیت‌نامه در همان محلی بوده که رهبری شهید انقلاب به شهادت رسیدند

Hamidreza Taraghi: The will was in the same place where the Leader of the Islamic Revolution was martyred

The martyred Leader issued nearly fifty policies on matters needed by the country to the executive, legislative, and judicial branches.

عبدالله عبدی: من روشنفکر نیستم؛ یک روزنامه نگار ساده هستم و مدعی تشکیلات عریض و طویل نیستم

Abdollah Abdi: I am not an intellectual; I am a simple journalist and I do not claim to have a vast and sprawling organization.

I tried to be a servant of the truth as much as possible.

بیژن عبدالکریمی: هرکس مردم را متهم کند، پفیوز است؛ مردم تقصیری ندارند و درگیر زندگی روزمره هستند

Bijan Abdolkarimi: Anyone who accuses the people is a scumbag; the people are not to blame and are caught up in everyday life.

Can the Mujahideen, Jaish al-Adl, and ethnic separatist forces really sit down at the same table?

حمیدرضا ترقی: ایشان (رهبر سوم جمهوری اسلامی) در زمان دفن رهبر شهید، به مشهد آمدند و ساعاتی در آنجا بودند

Hamidreza Taraqi: He (the third leader of the Islamic Republic) came to Mashhad at the time of the burial of the martyred leader and was there for a few hours.

It is not possible to make a specific prediction about when the Supreme Leader will appear; it depends on security issues and the level of conflict with the United States.

حمیدرضا ترقی: کینه‌ای که نسبت به رهبر شاهد انقلاب دارند تا الان ایجاب کرده که ما اجازه ندهیم آنها ایشان را ردیابی کنند

Hamidreza Taraghi: The grudge they bear against the Leader, who witnessed the Revolution, has so far made it necessary for us not to allow them to track him.

A clash of ideas takes place fully across the country; the Leader’s positions are viewed from various angles.

حمیدرضا ترقی: رهبر معظم انقلاب در جریان ریز به ریز مسائل قرار دارند

Hamidreza Taraqqi: The Supreme Leader is aware of the issues down to the smallest details.

The government has taken responsibility for the support dimension under wartime conditions.

بیژن عبدالکریمی: در 18 و 19 دی خشونتی اتفاق افتاد که در تاریخ ایران بی‌سابقه بود؛ در چنین کشوری، این خشونت خیلی جای تعجب دارد!

Bijan Abdolkarimi: On the 8th and 9th of Dey, a violence occurred that was unprecedented in Iran's history; in such a country, this violence is quite surprising!

Anyone who downplays this incident has blood on their hands for these young people.

بیژن عبدالکریمی: با الگورتیم‌هایی که درست کردن و نیروهای سایبری ازت حمایت کردند، فکر کردی پایگاه اجتماعی داری؟

Bijan Abdolkarimi: With the algorithms they created and the cyber forces that supported you, did you think you had a social base?

Now that we have the IRGC, this is our situation; if they weren't here, imagine what our situation would be.

بیژن عبدالکریمی: در شرایطی که موجودیت ایران در خطر است، آیا تضعیف حاکمیت با وجود داشتن انتقاد، عاقلانه است؟

Bijan Abdolkarimi: Under circumstances where Iran's existence is in danger, is it wise to weaken the government despite having criticisms?

Intellectuals who express joy over Khamenei's assassination are clueless; they think democracy will happen under the boots of the Israelis.

بیژن عبدالکریمی: آقای عبدی با عبدی مدیا، چقدر به مبارزات استعماری کشور و بالا بردن تاب‌آوری ملت کمک کرده؟

Bijan Abdolkarimi: Mr. Abdi, with Abdi Media, how much has he contributed to the country's anti-colonial struggles and to increasing the nation's resilience?

Iran has managed to withstand two nuclear powers.

بیژن عبدالکریمی: توجه به حمله خارجی، هسته مرکزی گفتمان شما نیست؛ این ایراد به اکثریت روشنفکران وارد است

Bijan Abdolkarimi: Paying attention to a foreign attack is not the core of your discourse; this criticism applies to the majority of intellectuals.

We have a polarized society; one says Soleimani is a hero, another says he is a terrorist.

عبدالله عبدی: عبدی مدیا فاندبگیر قرارگاه‌های سپاه یا حوزه علمیه نیست

Abdollah Abdi: Abdi Media is not a fundraiser for the IRGC headquarters or the seminary.

What I tried to do at Abdi Media was to avoid selling dreams.

بیژن عبدالکریمی: این‌هایی که به نتانیاهو می‌گویند "بی‌بی" حتی یک درصد هستند؟

Bijan Abdolkarimi: Are those who call Netanyahu "Bibi" even one percent?

Who do you mean by "the people"? Aren't the families of military personnel part of the people?